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		<title>By: Steve Dale</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniela,

many thanks for the ebook link. A hybrid approach sounds like it could be the best of both worlds. I look forward to reading about it.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniela,</p>
<p>many thanks for the ebook link. A hybrid approach sounds like it could be the best of both worlds. I look forward to reading about it.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: daniela barbosa</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>daniela barbosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been advocating the Hybrid approach to folksonomies and taxonomies in the Enterprise for a while and recently published an ebook that provides a high level look at the benefits of the Hybrid approach that i hope you find useful and entertaining!
 I have been in many a meeting where the mention of &#039;folksonomies&#039; causes visible anguish - but i am seeing that attitude change quickly.
You can download it here:
http://solutions.dowjones.com/cookbook/ebook_sla2008/cookbookebook.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been advocating the Hybrid approach to folksonomies and taxonomies in the Enterprise for a while and recently published an ebook that provides a high level look at the benefits of the Hybrid approach that i hope you find useful and entertaining!<br />
 I have been in many a meeting where the mention of &#8216;folksonomies&#8217; causes visible anguish &#8211; but i am seeing that attitude change quickly.<br />
You can download it here:<br />
<a href="http://solutions.dowjones.com/cookbook/ebook_sla2008/cookbookebook.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://solutions.dowjones.com/cookbook/ebook_sla2008/cookbookebook.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wilson</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
Mostly because it&#039;s mandated and may be useful in future for connecting simmilar pages across councils. We tend to use the &quot;real&quot; terms in the standard XHTML metadata which google is better at using anyway.
The same applies to all the mandated lists (Navigation list, A2Z list etc ...)

We also tend to find that the lists have been made for England. Quite often, Scottish and English law have different terms for the same thing and can even have entirely different set ups.
Even though we have a specifically Scottish Navigation list, the terms used can vary between, say, Dundee and Glasgow. As in England, dialects across the whole country can be very different.
I think, in our case, folksonomy would work really well because council staff can tag the pages with the &quot;council terms&quot; and they can also be tagged with the everyday terms by anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Mostly because it&#8217;s mandated and may be useful in future for connecting simmilar pages across councils. We tend to use the &#8220;real&#8221; terms in the standard XHTML metadata which google is better at using anyway.<br />
The same applies to all the mandated lists (Navigation list, A2Z list etc &#8230;)</p>
<p>We also tend to find that the lists have been made for England. Quite often, Scottish and English law have different terms for the same thing and can even have entirely different set ups.<br />
Even though we have a specifically Scottish Navigation list, the terms used can vary between, say, Dundee and Glasgow. As in England, dialects across the whole country can be very different.<br />
I think, in our case, folksonomy would work really well because council staff can tag the pages with the &#8220;council terms&#8221; and they can also be tagged with the everyday terms by anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Dale</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

thanks for comments. I&#039;m intrigued to know whether your team use IPSV because it&#039;s mandated, or whether it is adding real value - e.g. for information sharing between councils, or to support document or records management? As you can see from my original post, I can&#039;t see any practical benefit - unless it is tied to something like EDRMS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>thanks for comments. I&#8217;m intrigued to know whether your team use IPSV because it&#8217;s mandated, or whether it is adding real value &#8211; e.g. for information sharing between councils, or to support document or records management? As you can see from my original post, I can&#8217;t see any practical benefit &#8211; unless it is tied to something like EDRMS.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Dale</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

ahh, I should have guessed you would pick up on the Tweeter. I&#039;m certainly intrigued by the course, but as an independent freelancer I have to look careful at cost/benefit. since it&#039;s me that&#039;s paying and not some large corp. Will have a think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>ahh, I should have guessed you would pick up on the Tweeter. I&#8217;m certainly intrigued by the course, but as an independent freelancer I have to look careful at cost/benefit. since it&#8217;s me that&#8217;s paying and not some large corp. Will have a think.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wilson</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops, my bad. didn&#039;t realise I was required to put  tags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops, my bad. didn&#8217;t realise I was required to put  tags.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wilson</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds as though the course leader hadn&#039;t really investigated folksonomies much at all or, indeed, spent much time using systems with folksonomies.

My team find that, even when using deep-level IPSV terms, we have to use standard metadata as well. The main reason being that the vocabulary used is very much based on &quot;council speak&quot; and, even if searchable via google, are not words that non-council people would be familiar with.

Not only that but there are changes in terms that are used depending on location both in terms of dialect (eg yorkshire  vs cornwall vs essex, for instance) but also legal terms (Scots law vs english law).

All the various standard vocabularies are much more to do with the national government&#039;s project to have a citizen account and being able to find something on one council site in the same way as we would on another.

Also, folksonomies, especially mature ones, are extremely friendly to search engines, because the people creating the tags are the same people that carry out the searches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds as though the course leader hadn&#8217;t really investigated folksonomies much at all or, indeed, spent much time using systems with folksonomies.</p>
<p>My team find that, even when using deep-level IPSV terms, we have to use standard metadata as well. The main reason being that the vocabulary used is very much based on &#8220;council speak&#8221; and, even if searchable via google, are not words that non-council people would be familiar with.</p>
<p>Not only that but there are changes in terms that are used depending on location both in terms of dialect (eg yorkshire  vs cornwall vs essex, for instance) but also legal terms (Scots law vs english law).</p>
<p>All the various standard vocabularies are much more to do with the national government&#8217;s project to have a citizen account and being able to find something on one council site in the same way as we would on another.</p>
<p>Also, folksonomies, especially mature ones, are extremely friendly to search engines, because the people creating the tags are the same people that carry out the searches.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Snowden</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Snowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you don&#039;t allow your self to be put off by the off Tweeter and do come on the course, you will find most of day three devoted to lightly constrained tagging systems as an alternative to either of the above ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you don&#8217;t allow your self to be put off by the off Tweeter and do come on the course, you will find most of day three devoted to lightly constrained tagging systems as an alternative to either of the above &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Massey</title>
		<link>http://steve-dale.net/2008/07/31/taxonomies-vs-folksonomies/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say HI.  I found your blog a few days ago on Technorati and have been reading it over the past few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say HI.  I found your blog a few days ago on Technorati and have been reading it over the past few days.</p>
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